This week on Dark Rhino Security’s Security Confidential podcast, Host Manoj Tandon speaks with Robert Black. Rob is a Lecturer in Information Activities at Cranfield University on behalf of the UK Defence Academy. He is also the former Deputy Director of the UK’s National Cyber Deception Laboratory. At the Defence Academy, he leads modules on the UK Ministry of Defence’s Cyberspace Operations M.Sc and helps educate senior military leaders about Warfare in the Information Age. His interests are focused on the nexus of cyber, national security, and warfighting, the legality of cyber operations, and the role of influence and deception in cyber. He previously worked for the MoD developing cyber capabilities and supporting the delivery of cyber operations. He is also the Director of the UK Cyber 9/12 Strategy Challenge.
Chapter Titles:
00:00 Introduction
00:19 Our Guest: Robert Black
01:28 Rob’s Journey into Cyber
06:20 The weakest link is designing systems that don’t appreciate humans are integrated as a part of the system
09:17 Taking an insurance mindset
10:36 Does the Lock and Key model for Cyber work on bad actors?
16:12 Legality and Kinetic Response (Hack back, WannaCry attack, Liam Neeson, Crowdstrike report, U.S. Military)
22:30 Striking fear into the Hackers
28:00 Does that help the SOC team?
29:45 Arguing with Attorneys and Hackers
33:19 Use of Deception tech
35:32 The psychology of the adversary
41:41 Who is responsible for Cybersecurity?
52:43 Connecting with Rob
Dark Rhino Security’s Security Confidential is a weekly Cybersecurity podcast where Host, Manoj Tandon, talks to Infosec and Cybersecurity professionals about the current issues going on in our industry. Guests are able to share their stories about how they began their journey into cybersecurity and connect with our audience. Listeners are able to tune in through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, Youtube, LinkedIn, and more.
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Check out the other episodes in Season 12:
Ep. 1 Marius Poskus – Tech talk overwhelms the nontechnical
Ep. 2 Robert Black – Who is responsible for Cybersecurity?
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About Robert Black
At the Defence Academy, he leads modules on the UK Ministry of Defence’s Cyberspace Operations M.Sc and helps educate senior military leaders about Warfare in the Information Age.
His interests are focused on the nexus of cyber, national security, and warfighting, the legality of cyber operations, and the role of influence and deception in cyber.
He previously worked for the MoD developing cyber capabilities and supporting the delivery of cyber operations.
He is also the Director of the UK Cyber 9/12 Strategy Challenge.
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